1 00:00:10,379 --> 00:00:08,250 okay all right so my name is Brandon 2 00:00:12,330 --> 00:00:10,389 Stackhouse I'm from Princeton I go I 3 00:00:14,869 --> 00:00:12,340 work with the onstott laboratory there 4 00:00:16,890 --> 00:00:14,879 and i'll be speaking a little bit about 5 00:00:18,990 --> 00:00:16,900 this experiment that we've been running 6 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:19,000 for a while looking at gas fluxes out of 7 00:00:23,010 --> 00:00:21,250 these cores we've collected from the 8 00:00:24,930 --> 00:00:23,020 High Arctic that have been undergoing 9 00:00:26,790 --> 00:00:24,940 this progressive thorium and sort of 10 00:00:29,790 --> 00:00:26,800 what we've been seeing there so we'll be 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:29,800 discussing mainly flux and pour gas data 12 00:00:32,939 --> 00:00:31,330 but we'll be touching a little bit on 13 00:00:34,590 --> 00:00:32,949 some modeling efforts that we've been 14 00:00:38,069 --> 00:00:34,600 doing as well to look at this problem 15 00:00:39,540 --> 00:00:38,079 and a little bit about the microbial 16 00:00:43,259 --> 00:00:39,550 community that's present in this area as 17 00:00:44,939 --> 00:00:43,269 well so there's been this sort of 18 00:00:48,020 --> 00:00:44,949 amazing body of work that's shown up 19 00:00:51,059 --> 00:00:48,030 over the past 10 to 15 years looking at 20 00:00:55,259 --> 00:00:51,069 communities in cold environments all 21 00:00:57,419 --> 00:00:55,269 these cycra files and it's it's gone on 22 00:00:59,939 --> 00:00:57,429 this amazing amazing argit's going not 23 00:01:01,559 --> 00:00:59,949 just from we see these microbes present 24 00:01:03,180 --> 00:01:01,569 in these cold environments where these 25 00:01:05,070 --> 00:01:03,190 sub-zero temperatures or froze and stuff 26 00:01:07,530 --> 00:01:05,080 too we see them actually actively 27 00:01:09,030 --> 00:01:07,540 metabolizing in these environments which 28 00:01:10,620 --> 00:01:09,040 is incredibly important because if 29 00:01:13,290 --> 00:01:10,630 they're just sitting there you get 30 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:13,300 long-term damage to DNA by radiation or 31 00:01:17,310 --> 00:01:15,310 just entropic decay but if you can 32 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:17,320 metabolize you can repair your DNA down 33 00:01:21,390 --> 00:01:19,450 there that gives you a much much longer 34 00:01:24,030 --> 00:01:21,400 life to sit in these cold permafrost 35 00:01:26,190 --> 00:01:24,040 environments and be a viable organism 36 00:01:27,930 --> 00:01:26,200 above and beyond that we've recently 37 00:01:30,510 --> 00:01:27,940 started seeing guys that can grow at 38 00:01:33,180 --> 00:01:30,520 incredibly low low temperatures 10 39 00:01:35,670 --> 00:01:33,190 degrees C recent paper from minus 15 40 00:01:37,530 --> 00:01:35,680 degrees C from McGill here where we see 41 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:37,540 things that not just metabolize but 42 00:01:42,330 --> 00:01:39,010 they're actually increase in their 43 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:42,340 community size potentially at these at 44 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:44,410 these very low temperatures that gives 45 00:01:47,670 --> 00:01:45,970 you a chance to just increase your bio 46 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:47,680 mass at these areas not just metabolize 47 00:01:53,220 --> 00:01:51,250 not just repair your DNA so this has 48 00:01:54,780 --> 00:01:53,230 been a really exciting area especially 49 00:01:57,510 --> 00:01:54,790 in terms of its astrobiology 50 00:01:58,920 --> 00:01:57,520 implications and what you see is that 51 00:02:02,730 --> 00:01:58,930 these guys are all from permafrost 52 00:02:04,980 --> 00:02:02,740 permafrost permafrost so what we want to 53 00:02:06,810 --> 00:02:04,990 do is look at these kinds of 54 00:02:09,930 --> 00:02:06,820 environments and see how they relate to 55 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:09,940 other areas so permafrost terrain for 56 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:11,890 those of you who maybe need a little bit 57 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:13,930 of a refresher it's this patterned 58 00:02:17,940 --> 00:02:16,480 ground that we see in polar regions so 59 00:02:19,350 --> 00:02:17,950 you have the art to give the Antarctic 60 00:02:21,390 --> 00:02:19,360 and it's dick 61 00:02:22,740 --> 00:02:21,400 by this freeze-thaw cycle that happens 62 00:02:25,410 --> 00:02:22,750 every year where during the summer 63 00:02:27,180 --> 00:02:25,420 everything thaws from the top down to 64 00:02:29,490 --> 00:02:27,190 some stable active layer depth where the 65 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:29,500 permafrost begins and it's this 66 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:31,690 freeze-thaw cycle that generates this 67 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:34,810 very regular behavior in the in the 68 00:02:39,540 --> 00:02:36,850 ground this very specific type of 69 00:02:41,670 --> 00:02:39,550 morphology that happens there and you 70 00:02:43,530 --> 00:02:41,680 develop these large ice wedges in 71 00:02:45,810 --> 00:02:43,540 certain areas you can get ice lenses 72 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:45,820 which is very ice rich kind of 73 00:02:51,650 --> 00:02:48,730 environment in these frozen soils and 74 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:51,660 it's Astra biologically relevant because 75 00:02:56,850 --> 00:02:54,130 much like we see in other areas it's 76 00:02:58,740 --> 00:02:56,860 very low temperatures so a lot of areas 77 00:03:00,600 --> 00:02:58,750 during the winter you get temperatures 78 00:03:03,060 --> 00:03:00,610 down minus-40 minus-50 degrees 79 00:03:05,460 --> 00:03:03,070 centigrade and that also means you have 80 00:03:07,620 --> 00:03:05,470 a very low liquid water availability for 81 00:03:09,479 --> 00:03:07,630 these microbes to exist in where things 82 00:03:12,660 --> 00:03:09,489 are existing either in brines or these 83 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:12,670 uh very thin water layers on top of ice 84 00:03:19,140 --> 00:03:17,770 that's down in the subsurface so that's 85 00:03:20,729 --> 00:03:19,150 a that's a really cool thing that we see 86 00:03:23,910 --> 00:03:20,739 these microbes that live in these types 87 00:03:25,620 --> 00:03:23,920 of environments it's also really cool 88 00:03:28,410 --> 00:03:25,630 that we see similar environments to this 89 00:03:30,990 --> 00:03:28,420 on Mars so over here we can see pattern 90 00:03:33,150 --> 00:03:31,000 terrain from the Utopia basin which is 91 00:03:36,890 --> 00:03:33,160 up in the northern hemisphere of Mars 92 00:03:40,050 --> 00:03:36,900 right over here I think and looking at 93 00:03:42,300 --> 00:03:40,060 orbital data people have looked at 94 00:03:44,310 --> 00:03:42,310 regions where they see evidence and the 95 00:03:47,370 --> 00:03:44,320 ground features that indicate that 96 00:03:50,009 --> 00:03:47,380 there's near-surface stable ground ice 97 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:50,019 in Mars not too far below the dirt where 98 00:03:56,039 --> 00:03:52,930 you'll have you'll have liquid or not 99 00:03:58,890 --> 00:03:56,049 like I'm sorry uh solid ice that's 100 00:04:01,590 --> 00:03:58,900 present in may extend four extend Pro 101 00:04:03,150 --> 00:04:01,600 ways down into the ground and I was 102 00:04:04,259 --> 00:04:03,160 agonizing for a while getting this talk 103 00:04:06,930 --> 00:04:04,269 return to figure out how am I going to 104 00:04:08,580 --> 00:04:06,940 convince you guys that there's the 105 00:04:09,630 --> 00:04:08,590 possibility even though it's ground ice 106 00:04:11,130 --> 00:04:09,640 here that maybe there's some liquid 107 00:04:13,500 --> 00:04:11,140 water here where these micronians 108 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:13,510 couldn't exist and I was so happy 109 00:04:19,740 --> 00:04:16,690 yesterday that two talks back to back 110 00:04:22,409 --> 00:04:19,750 did most of my heavy lifting for me so 111 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:22,419 the talk that Harvey gave looking at the 112 00:04:28,589 --> 00:04:24,370 formation of liquid brians from 113 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:28,599 telepresence in these in these salt 114 00:04:32,990 --> 00:04:30,250 environments that were seen there and 115 00:04:37,650 --> 00:04:33,000 then the talk by Brendan about 116 00:04:39,090 --> 00:04:37,660 these streaks slope features that people 117 00:04:42,750 --> 00:04:39,100 have seen on Mars that we have analogs 118 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:42,760 for on earth and that that was fantastic 119 00:04:47,970 --> 00:04:45,850 and so we look at this one we say okay 120 00:04:49,710 --> 00:04:47,980 maybe you have these liquid brines these 121 00:04:51,510 --> 00:04:49,720 organisms the water that's there it 122 00:04:53,730 --> 00:04:51,520 would have to be very salty water that 123 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:53,740 their existing in that's okay the areas 124 00:04:58,710 --> 00:04:57,010 that we've done these isolations from on 125 00:05:00,210 --> 00:04:58,720 earth a lot of them are from these 126 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:00,220 liquid Brian environments their halo 127 00:05:04,290 --> 00:05:02,530 files they're okay with that we look at 128 00:05:06,270 --> 00:05:04,300 these streaks slope things and people 129 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:06,280 say if exists it's very temporary that's 130 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:08,610 okay to these organisms that we see in 131 00:05:12,780 --> 00:05:10,690 in the Arctic they're used to only 132 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:12,790 having temporary access to liquid water 133 00:05:17,370 --> 00:05:15,610 during times that they have you know the 134 00:05:18,990 --> 00:05:17,380 winter when they're still metabolizing 135 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:19,000 they get very very little water they're 136 00:05:24,270 --> 00:05:21,850 frozen most of the time so salty 137 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:24,280 temporary that's okay the fact that it's 138 00:05:27,810 --> 00:05:26,170 there at all it's very important it 139 00:05:30,030 --> 00:05:27,820 gives them a chance to increase their 140 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:30,040 deposit give you city or eight get rid 141 00:05:33,450 --> 00:05:31,510 of some of their waste byproducts get 142 00:05:36,390 --> 00:05:33,460 new oxidants in their system they're 143 00:05:40,890 --> 00:05:36,400 happy to even see it at all so that that 144 00:05:45,150 --> 00:05:40,900 makes our life a lot easier so the work 145 00:05:48,270 --> 00:05:45,160 that we've been doing is up in axel 146 00:05:50,940 --> 00:05:48,280 Heiberg Island which we're using as an 147 00:05:53,790 --> 00:05:50,950 analog site for some places on Mars it's 148 00:05:54,840 --> 00:05:53,800 not it's not a perfect analogue but you 149 00:05:58,230 --> 00:05:54,850 know you squint your eyes a little bit 150 00:06:00,450 --> 00:05:58,240 on a warm day on Mars is a nice cold day 151 00:06:02,130 --> 00:06:00,460 up in the architecture the pressure is 152 00:06:04,860 --> 00:06:02,140 different you got some oxygen but you 153 00:06:10,260 --> 00:06:04,870 know this this is not bad it is not bad 154 00:06:11,940 --> 00:06:10,270 in the end so here's our field site I'm 155 00:06:15,180 --> 00:06:11,950 fortunate to work up the McGill Arctic 156 00:06:17,220 --> 00:06:15,190 research station which is at oh hello 79 157 00:06:18,810 --> 00:06:17,230 degrees north it has a mean annual air 158 00:06:21,420 --> 00:06:18,820 temperature of minus 19 degrees 159 00:06:24,630 --> 00:06:21,430 centigrade and it's characterized by 160 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:24,640 being a very low organic carbon soy only 161 00:06:28,980 --> 00:06:26,650 about 1% organic carbon that's president 162 00:06:33,350 --> 00:06:28,990 there and it's also a moist acidic 163 00:06:35,580 --> 00:06:33,360 tundra so our ground is about 4.5 to 5.5 164 00:06:37,980 --> 00:06:35,590 for the pH in terms of the ground water 165 00:06:40,170 --> 00:06:37,990 and a ground soil so here's a picture of 166 00:06:42,330 --> 00:06:40,180 it in the winter you get this nice snow 167 00:06:43,650 --> 00:06:42,340 cover here's it during the summer and 168 00:06:46,050 --> 00:06:43,660 what you can tell from this photo is 169 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:46,060 that you really don't have much in terms 170 00:06:48,690 --> 00:06:46,510 of plane 171 00:06:51,030 --> 00:06:48,700 it cover this is you're not driving much 172 00:06:52,950 --> 00:06:51,040 of your organic carbon from plants you 173 00:06:55,740 --> 00:06:52,960 have a fairer keema with autotrophic 174 00:06:58,740 --> 00:06:55,750 community here that's derived most of 175 00:07:02,340 --> 00:06:58,750 the most most of the carbon cycling that 176 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:02,350 happens in one of in a lot of areas so 177 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:06,160 we went up there in end winter to drill 178 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:08,890 a bunch of permafrost cores and if 179 00:07:15,990 --> 00:07:11,890 you've never drilled in the Arctic in 180 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:16,000 the winter it is a special type of hell 181 00:07:20,310 --> 00:07:19,330 that is reserved by advisers for grad 182 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:20,320 students they don't think are working 183 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:23,050 hard enough so I got to spend two weeks 184 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:25,210 up there with Guillaume right over there 185 00:07:31,230 --> 00:07:28,930 and we drilled about 40 1 meter 186 00:07:32,390 --> 00:07:31,240 permafrost cores and it's important that 187 00:07:35,340 --> 00:07:32,400 we collected them in the winter because 188 00:07:38,220 --> 00:07:35,350 since all the soil was still frozen it 189 00:07:40,590 --> 00:07:38,230 means that the gas composition of the 190 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:40,600 pore water that's there is going to be 191 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:42,250 reflective of what the environment was 192 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:44,290 like when this witness environment froze 193 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:46,930 at the at the onset of winter the 194 00:07:51,570 --> 00:07:49,690 previous the previous year that means as 195 00:07:54,180 --> 00:07:51,580 we do our thawing we can actually go 196 00:07:57,090 --> 00:07:54,190 back and sample what that looked like 197 00:07:59,750 --> 00:07:57,100 before hand plus whatever respiration 198 00:08:03,000 --> 00:07:59,760 was occurring during the winter months 199 00:08:04,470 --> 00:08:03,010 so the way our experiment looked is we 200 00:08:06,300 --> 00:08:04,480 did this progressive thaw from the top 201 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:06,310 down here's just a quick look at the 202 00:08:11,370 --> 00:08:08,770 temperature profile where you can see 203 00:08:13,350 --> 00:08:11,380 that over the course of several weeks we 204 00:08:15,750 --> 00:08:13,360 progressively brought up sections of the 205 00:08:17,130 --> 00:08:15,760 core two above freezing to a maximum 206 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:17,140 temperature about four degrees 207 00:08:22,410 --> 00:08:19,810 centigrade and over the course of this 208 00:08:25,290 --> 00:08:22,420 thong experiment we were measuring the 209 00:08:28,010 --> 00:08:25,300 concentration of trace gases in the 210 00:08:31,230 --> 00:08:28,020 headspace as well as major components so 211 00:08:34,890 --> 00:08:31,240 nitrogen and oxygen co2 methane that 212 00:08:37,469 --> 00:08:34,900 sort of thing and we were also sampling 213 00:08:39,570 --> 00:08:37,479 the pore water and that adds several 214 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:39,580 depths down the course we had about five 215 00:08:44,670 --> 00:08:41,410 centimeters 35 centimeters 65 216 00:08:46,710 --> 00:08:44,680 centimetres and then one sampling port 217 00:08:48,630 --> 00:08:46,720 to be placed into the permafrost itself 218 00:08:51,930 --> 00:08:48,640 so when we thought the permafrost we 219 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:51,940 could get a look at what that was doing 220 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:54,370 down there as well over the course of 221 00:08:59,860 --> 00:08:56,290 this experiment we also collected soil 222 00:09:02,800 --> 00:08:59,870 samples to do DNA extraction 223 00:09:05,740 --> 00:09:02,810 to look at the meta-genome of profile oh 224 00:09:08,260 --> 00:09:05,750 my goodness okay all right so we're 225 00:09:10,780 --> 00:09:08,270 going to move up fast over here so 226 00:09:13,180 --> 00:09:10,790 looking at the head space during Thal we 227 00:09:15,070 --> 00:09:13,190 see this ink we see this release of 228 00:09:18,700 --> 00:09:15,080 methane that occurs and it drops down to 229 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:18,710 near zero values we were expecting to 230 00:09:23,079 --> 00:09:20,510 see this increase during the initial 231 00:09:24,910 --> 00:09:23,089 thaw it's been seen in other areas but 232 00:09:26,470 --> 00:09:24,920 we didn't see a pick up afterwards which 233 00:09:28,660 --> 00:09:26,480 we are expecting to we thought meth an 234 00:09:30,340 --> 00:09:28,670 agenda sustained at some point and you'd 235 00:09:33,579 --> 00:09:30,350 see the production of methane going on 236 00:09:35,290 --> 00:09:33,589 which you really didn't see very much so 237 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:35,300 when we start investigating what's going 238 00:09:40,570 --> 00:09:37,250 on in the poor gas during this time 239 00:09:42,820 --> 00:09:40,580 period as well I want you to look at 240 00:09:44,350 --> 00:09:42,830 these X's right here this is our 241 00:09:47,110 --> 00:09:44,360 saturated treatments these are 242 00:09:49,420 --> 00:09:47,120 unsaturated treatments for this falling 243 00:09:51,579 --> 00:09:49,430 experiment we can see an unsaturated the 244 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:51,589 poor gas composition of methane 245 00:09:56,110 --> 00:09:53,810 decreases rather significantly and it 246 00:09:58,540 --> 00:09:56,120 doesn't in saturated one this tells us 247 00:10:00,340 --> 00:09:58,550 that in the saturated one the perma the 248 00:10:02,019 --> 00:10:00,350 methane that's down in the subsurface is 249 00:10:04,990 --> 00:10:02,029 diffusion limited in reaching the 250 00:10:07,810 --> 00:10:05,000 headspace but if we look at the 251 00:10:09,730 --> 00:10:07,820 unsaturated one we see that it's not and 252 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:09,740 this should have represented a very 253 00:10:13,269 --> 00:10:11,930 large increase in the methane flux 254 00:10:15,250 --> 00:10:13,279 during this thought period there should 255 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:15,260 have been a large bolus of methane that 256 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:16,610 reach the surface and we just didn't see 257 00:10:21,550 --> 00:10:18,650 it so we're trying to identify what's 258 00:10:23,079 --> 00:10:21,560 actually going on here in this thing yes 259 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:23,089 we just have a mass balance issue in 260 00:10:28,300 --> 00:10:27,410 terms of where this methane is and if we 261 00:10:30,010 --> 00:10:28,310 look at this data in a slightly 262 00:10:33,850 --> 00:10:30,020 different way here's that same data just 263 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:33,860 shown a little different if we start 264 00:10:36,850 --> 00:10:35,330 running it out and putting methane 265 00:10:38,530 --> 00:10:36,860 actually into the headspace we see that 266 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:38,540 rather than these soils being a source 267 00:10:43,030 --> 00:10:40,370 of methane so we were imagining this 268 00:10:45,100 --> 00:10:43,040 would be large meth anak with antigen at 269 00:10:46,990 --> 00:10:45,110 community there we actually see that we 270 00:10:49,329 --> 00:10:47,000 have methane atrophic curring in all 271 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:49,339 cores in all treatments so mainly thing 272 00:10:52,030 --> 00:10:50,660 about this in terms of saturated and 273 00:10:54,190 --> 00:10:52,040 everything else everything else gets 274 00:10:55,990 --> 00:10:54,200 access to some oxygen saturated is 275 00:10:58,900 --> 00:10:56,000 diffusion limited by the water that's 276 00:11:01,930 --> 00:10:58,910 presents on the cores and what we can 277 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:01,940 see is that there's actually even in 278 00:11:06,699 --> 00:11:04,250 saturated cores methane oxidation is 279 00:11:08,620 --> 00:11:06,709 occurring and we can tell it this is not 280 00:11:10,030 --> 00:11:08,630 due to residual oxygen we can look at 281 00:11:12,370 --> 00:11:10,040 oxygen this present the pore water and 282 00:11:13,570 --> 00:11:12,380 see that this is some sort of non 283 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:13,580 oxygenic 284 00:11:19,540 --> 00:11:16,010 or aerobic methane oxidation which is 285 00:11:21,580 --> 00:11:19,550 very interesting so I'll skip over this 286 00:11:23,020 --> 00:11:21,590 we've looked we did some microcosm work 287 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:23,030 to try to determine what's actually 288 00:11:27,670 --> 00:11:25,850 happening in terms of methane production 289 00:11:29,470 --> 00:11:27,680 and consumption at various steps and it 290 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:29,480 various temperatures throughout the 291 00:11:36,250 --> 00:11:32,570 profile in these cores and what we use 292 00:11:38,410 --> 00:11:36,260 this for was to develop a 2d model for 293 00:11:40,750 --> 00:11:38,420 methane production flux so this is a 294 00:11:45,310 --> 00:11:40,760 couple biology and physics model that 295 00:11:48,580 --> 00:11:45,320 we've made that also uses a ph 296 00:11:51,250 --> 00:11:48,590 dependence equation to model methane 297 00:11:52,450 --> 00:11:51,260 methane a trophy methanogenesis and it's 298 00:11:54,070 --> 00:11:52,460 also linked to temperature by the 299 00:11:55,660 --> 00:11:54,080 Iranians equation which is what are 300 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:55,670 microcosms were used to do sorry I 301 00:11:59,320 --> 00:11:57,410 skipped over that a little bit but we're 302 00:12:00,760 --> 00:11:59,330 able to make predictions about methane 303 00:12:04,330 --> 00:12:00,770 consumption and production in these 304 00:12:06,970 --> 00:12:04,340 environments based on empirical evidence 305 00:12:11,230 --> 00:12:06,980 that we have so we've generated in our 306 00:12:12,850 --> 00:12:11,240 own model for doing this kind of work so 307 00:12:14,830 --> 00:12:12,860 far we're very good at being able to 308 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:14,840 predict what happens in unsaturated 309 00:12:20,170 --> 00:12:17,770 soils we have a bit of an issue still 310 00:12:22,750 --> 00:12:20,180 recreating what our fluxes should look 311 00:12:24,010 --> 00:12:22,760 like in terms of the saturated soils we 312 00:12:28,270 --> 00:12:24,020 think this might be due to the fact that 313 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:28,280 we have an me going on so la slit up the 314 00:12:32,170 --> 00:12:30,530 side there there's some interesting 315 00:12:34,990 --> 00:12:32,180 papers that have that show that there's 316 00:12:37,180 --> 00:12:35,000 this potential coupling between sulfate 317 00:12:39,670 --> 00:12:37,190 reduction and methane oxidation that 318 00:12:41,740 --> 00:12:39,680 occurs in certain soils and we see 319 00:12:44,710 --> 00:12:41,750 evidence of sulfate reduction in our 320 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:44,720 soils which may be indicative of this so 321 00:12:48,550 --> 00:12:47,090 sort of just a quick summary we've 322 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:48,560 developed a 2d model looking at methane 323 00:12:52,870 --> 00:12:51,050 cycle in the Arctic we see a nice cycle 324 00:12:55,450 --> 00:12:52,880 that occurs within the permafrost in the 325 00:12:57,700 --> 00:12:55,460 active layer within a link system so 326 00:12:59,830 --> 00:12:57,710 it's not distal in terms of production 327 00:13:01,300 --> 00:12:59,840 and consumption we see the production or 328 00:13:03,250 --> 00:13:01,310 potential for an aerobic oxidation of 329 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:03,260 methane in saturated soils and we have 330 00:13:07,060 --> 00:13:05,690 some future work incorporating the model 331 00:13:09,820 --> 00:13:07,070 with some more things and doing tracer 332 00:13:12,610 --> 00:13:09,830 experiments to look at a gentleman 333 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:12,620 connectivity between methane oxidation 334 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:32,820 Thank You Brandon any questions sure I'm 335 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:37,310 so I for a lot of these guys as long as 336 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:40,010 they're able to as long as the system 337 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:41,330 isn't completely closed you get some 338 00:13:44,850 --> 00:13:42,410 cracks in the system they're able to get 339 00:13:47,140 --> 00:13:44,860 fresh oxidants and they can turn over I 340 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:47,150 turn over their DNA and do some DNA 341 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:50,570 repair there's not a good reason that 342 00:13:53,710 --> 00:13:51,890 they can't exist for thousands and 343 00:13:56,170 --> 00:13:53,720 thousands of years in the permafrost on 344 00:13:59,110 --> 00:13:56,180 the adjusting to be able to have a 345 00:14:02,800 --> 00:13:59,120 minimum minimum energetic requirement 346 00:14:04,150 --> 00:14:02,810 met in order to do that base repair so 347 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:04,160 they can last quite a long time down 348 00:14:11,410 --> 00:14:09,890 there do you have any 16s station yet 349 00:14:13,810 --> 00:14:11,420 for what's going on in those communities 350 00:14:16,660 --> 00:14:13,820 so we're still waiting on it I'm talking 351 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:16,670 you repeat that do you have any 16s rrna 352 00:14:20,290 --> 00:14:18,770 gene profiles for the communities and 353 00:14:22,870 --> 00:14:20,300 these cores are you still waiting on 354 00:14:25,570 --> 00:14:22,880 that data yes so they're about 1% 355 00:14:27,820 --> 00:14:25,580 archaea in terms of what's going on so 356 00:14:29,470 --> 00:14:27,830 there's a fairly low presumably 357 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:29,480 methanogenic community that's going on 358 00:14:34,270 --> 00:14:31,250 there and they're primarily focused in 359 00:14:35,590 --> 00:14:34,280 about 65 centimetres or below um we've 360 00:14:40,270 --> 00:14:35,600 gotten some stuff back looking at the 361 00:14:42,490 --> 00:14:40,280 top 35 centimeters we see about 1% alpha 362 00:14:45,250 --> 00:14:42,500 proteobacteria that should be methane 363 00:14:51,130 --> 00:14:45,260 atrophic communities pipe to meth anna 364 00:14:53,410 --> 00:14:51,140 caucus um or middle of caucus I we're 365 00:14:55,180 --> 00:14:53,420 still doing work and looking at what the 366 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:55,190 changes over time we'd like to see a 367 00:14:58,690 --> 00:14:57,050 difference in the profiles as thaw goes 368 00:15:13,280 --> 00:14:58,700 on but we're still waiting on getting 369 00:15:19,500 --> 00:15:16,079 do you plan to screen any of the 370 00:15:22,230 --> 00:15:19,510 permafrost I slits at marsh and 371 00:15:25,139 --> 00:15:22,240 conditions and I asked that because we 372 00:15:27,090 --> 00:15:25,149 my lab recently got a I slit from 373 00:15:28,590 --> 00:15:27,100 permafrost in Russia that grows up 374 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:28,600 marketing conditions so you might have 375 00:15:32,850 --> 00:15:30,490 something exciting in your permafrost 376 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:32,860 that would be awesome might uh I'd love 377 00:15:44,819 --> 00:15:37,890 to do it if you have any money for me to 378 00:15:46,050 --> 00:15:44,829 i'll be taking checks cash hey um so 379 00:15:49,170 --> 00:15:46,060 essentially you just showed that you 380 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:49,180 have a methane sink in fine permafrost 381 00:15:53,190 --> 00:15:51,490 um and so I know this is an astrobiology 382 00:15:56,519 --> 00:15:53,200 conference but would you care to comment 383 00:15:58,620 --> 00:15:56,529 on the inevitable conclusions that 384 00:16:00,389 --> 00:15:58,630 people will make that with global 385 00:16:01,829 --> 00:16:00,399 warming and your permafrost laws that 386 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:01,839 this might actually solve all of our 387 00:16:08,009 --> 00:16:05,170 problems um yeah so this actually 388 00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:08,019 presents a really unique environment to 389 00:16:13,530 --> 00:16:11,110 look at this kind of thing I where it's 390 00:16:14,730 --> 00:16:13,540 a low organic carbon soil which is very 391 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:14,740 different than a lot of the research 392 00:16:18,750 --> 00:16:16,690 that's done in terms of methane release 393 00:16:20,430 --> 00:16:18,760 into the environment those happen to be 394 00:16:22,769 --> 00:16:20,440 those are usually done in very high 395 00:16:24,329 --> 00:16:22,779 organic carbon content like peat bogs 396 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:24,339 that kind of stuff where you see twenty 397 00:16:29,220 --> 00:16:27,970 thirty forty percent organic carbon we 398 00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:29,230 have a really hard time here actually 399 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:31,209 turning on our math Anna genet community 400 00:16:35,699 --> 00:16:33,670 we feed em acetate we feed mhm to co2 401 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:35,709 they don't seem to really like it and 402 00:16:39,870 --> 00:16:38,170 our methane agentur meth inotropes super 403 00:16:42,269 --> 00:16:39,880 happy to eat any methane that we do give 404 00:16:44,699 --> 00:16:42,279 them so this might be indicative of 405 00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:44,709 types of soil organic carbon a little 406 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:46,510 bit drier where we've just sort of 407 00:16:51,540 --> 00:16:48,910 crossed some sort of threshold and they 408 00:16:53,579 --> 00:16:51,550 turn into sinks as opposed to sources um 409 00:16:56,340 --> 00:16:53,589 I think it depends on what the 410 00:16:59,220 --> 00:16:56,350 distribution is but areas like this look